Disputed

The prescribed Hanf threshold in Shelah's categoricity conjecture is not provable in ZFC

Theorem 1.1 (assuming CH): there is an AEC KK in a countable finitary relational language with LS(K)=ℵ0LS(K)=\aleph_0, at least two nonisomorphic models of cardinality ℶω2=H(K)\beth_{\omega_2}=H(K), and categorical in every cardinal ≥Λ=ℶ(2ℵ1)+\ge\Lambda=\beth_{(2^{\aleph_1})^+}. So categoricity at Λ+\Lambda^+ does not transfer down to H(K)H(K), and the prescribed-threshold form is not a theorem of ZFC (if ZFC is consistent). The same class is eventually categorical, so this is compatible with the qualitative conjecture. It does not decide whether the prescribed form can hold under other hypotheses (for example failure of CH), and it does not concern the ℶω1\beth_{\omega_1} threshold for Lω1,ωL_{\omega_1,\omega}.

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Occurred: Sep 24, 2026

Delta type: SOURCE CLAIM

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Canonical aliases: The prescribed Hanf threshold in Shelah's categoricity conjecture is not provable in ZFC · Prescribed categoricity threshold fails under CH

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Registry verification: contested · announcement · partial

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VibeMathed record: The prescribed Hanf threshold in Shelah's categoricity conjecture is not provable in ZFC evidence for this event

Theorem 1.1 (assuming CH): there is an AEC KK in a countable finitary relational language with LS(K)=ℵ0LS(K)=\aleph_0, at least two nonisomorphic models of cardinality ℶω2=H(K)\beth_{\omega_2}=H(K), and categorical in every cardinal ≥Λ=ℶ(2ℵ1)+\ge\Lambda=\beth_{(2^{\aleph_1})^+}. So categoricity at Λ+\Lambda^+ does not transfer down to H(K)H(K), and the prescribed-threshold form is not a theorem of ZFC (if ZFC is consistent). The same class is eventually categorical, so this is compatible with the qualitative conjecture. It does not decide whether the prescribed form can hold under other hypotheses (for example failure of CH), and it does not concern the ℶω1\beth_{\omega_1} threshold for Lω1,ωL_{\omega_1,\omega}. parent of this event

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The prescribed Hanf threshold in Shelah's categoricity conjecture is not provable in ZFC evidence for this event

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